Randall Terry: As many as nine people who were potential witnesses in this case have been murdered already. If you could say anything you wanted for the next ten or fifteen minutes, what would you say?
Jean Duffey: I would like for people to wake up and understand the massive amount of drugs that have been transported into the United States and that the war on drugs is a myth. That our government is very well aware, and in some cases is a participant in the drug smuggling. I believe that is incredible for people to understand as it would have been for me had I not been involved in it and [understood] how it happened and why it happened. I would like for people to buy our video, "Obstruction of Justice."
Randall Terry: Why?
Jean Duffey: It will begin to explain all of the connections of drug smuggling and how it affects people's lives. It will help people to understand how it is allowed to continue, and why it is allowed to continue. There will be a sequel to "Obstruction of Justice" that will go more in depth into the actual drug-smuggling operation. But our video explains very poignantly how it affected the life of an American family. Linda and Larry Ives, the parents of Kevin Ives, who was killed when he was 17-years-old because he stumbled upon a drug drop. [There was also the death of his friend, Don Henry]. As if their murders were not bad enough, they were murdered by law enforcement officers who were part of the drug-smuggling operation.
Randall Terry: Let's just stop right here.
Jean Duffey: All right.
Randall Terry: I watched this video yesterday and when I was done, I took my entire staff up after yesterday's show and told them "you all have to watch this." They all went home late for dinner. I don't usually react to things this bad[ly]. The clear implication of the video is that Dan Harmon and other law enforcement agents murdered these boys.
Jean Duffey: Well, that's absolutely correct.
Randall Terry: You're not a crackpot - you're involved in law enforcement. There are other law enforcement [officers] in the film, all risking life and limb and future careers to say things against some very powerful people. You really believe that these boys were murdered by law enforcement agents?
Jean Duffey: I don't think there's any doubt about it. And I believe the law enforcement agents were connected to some very high political people because they have never been brought to justice and I don't think they ever will be. I think they are protected to avoid exposing the connection.
Randall Terry: To who? To higher-ups?
Jean Duffey: Yes, absolutely to higher-ups.
Randall Terry: How high?
Jean Duffey: Well, I know that there were CIA people involved in this drug-smuggling operation, that's pretty much undisputed. I can't really say whether the CIA people were acting officially or whether they were rogue operators, acting outside their official capacity and taking advantage of an opportunity to make private profits off of this drug-smuggling operation. Obviously they were connected to very high-up people. The U.S attorney who first shut down a federal investigation was appointed by a Republican president - he was appointed by President Bush and I don't believe he had any direct connection with any of this, but he certainly took orders from someone to close down that investigation.
Randall Terry: This all sounds so fantastic. How unbelievable. I mean how the average American just cannot grasp that state officials in Arkansas, or federal officials were somehow even remotely connected with drug-smuggling, and then to say that some of the lower officials actually murdered these boys - I've got to stop myself. I'm a Christian and I'm a Calvinist and I believe in the wickedness of man's heart, so it should not surprise me that wicked men can do wicked things. Do you believe that Dan Harmon was involved with these murders?
Jean Duffey: I don't think that there is any doubt that he was.
Randall Terry: Explain to the listeners who Dan Harmon was at the time and who he is now.
Jean Duffey: At the time he was a person who was in and out of politics in Saline County. He had been a judge. He had been a prosecutor and, at the time the boys were murdered, he was in private practice. After they were murdered, he approached the parents of the two boys and [offered] his services to find out who had murdered the two boys. And he was subsequently appointed to be special prosecutor to head a county grand jury. Now for years the parents thought that Dan Harmon was trying to solve their murders, but later found out that he had very wisely put himself into a position of not only orchestrating the coverup, but being in the position of controlling the information that came in and the information that went out.
Randall Terry: Well, it's worse than that. People who came forward and said that they had information on these murders ended up getting murdered, themselves.
Jean Duffey: There have been several murders of potential witnesses. Anyone who could have solved this murder many years ago has been systematically eliminated.
Randall Terry: What did these boys see that was so critical that they were murdered that night - that the third boy who was with them, and then escaped - who ran away, was tracked down and murdered a year later - what was so critical to this whole process that all these people had to be killed? It's just - it sounds crazy!
Jean Duffey: It really does. I've been called crazy before - that's for sure.
Randall Terry: Before you answer the question, I just want to say in your defense ... these people are just doing their duty as law enforcement agents and they stumbled into this black, bloodstained hole involving the murder of these two boys. So go ahead Jean, if you could answer my question.
Jean Duffey: I will - what you said brought up a point I would like to make. When I was investigating this, I was crucified in the media by public officials who were involved in this, and I was labeled a whacko, a fruitcake, a nut case. In the U.S. attorney's office there were people who were supposed to be helping in this investigation who turned their backs on any of the information that my drug task force took in, because we had been so discredited. When this video came out, one of the people [who had been] in the U.S. Attorney's office back then saw the video, took it to work nd asked every person in the U.S. Attorney's office to sit down and watch [it]. He said, "this will change your mind about what we thought about Jean Duffey back in 1990."
Randall Terry: I am going to take a break and when we come back you can ask Jean Duffey why it was necessary that these two boys be murdered, and subsequently nine other witnesses were murdered....
Randall Terry: Before we took the break, Jean, I asked what these boys saw that caused not only them, but several other potential witnesses to their murder to be murdered.
Jean Duffey: Well, it's really quite simple. They stumbled upon a drug drop from an airplane that was part of the major drug-smuggling operation out on Mena, Arkansas.
Randall Terry: But, drug drops happen every day and there aren't 11 people murdered as a result.
Jean Duffey: This drug-smuggling operation had been set up in Mena by Barry Seal and was part of a CIA covert operation. To expose the murders would have exposed some very high[ly placed] political people - in fact I believe if it's ever solved completely it's going to expose a lot of Democrats and Republicans alike. And it's my personal opinion that's why it is not going to be investigated thoroughly by either party. Both parties stand to lose from exposure of this drug-smuggling operation.
Randall Terry: Have you heard of Terry Reed's book, "Compromised?"
Jean Duffey: Yes, I have. I've read it.
Randall Terry: Do you think it's credible?
Jean Duffey: Ah - I think without really knowing...
Randall Terry: Terry was a co-pilot with Barry Seal, and Barry Seal was the one who was gunned down - he was murdered a little more than 10 years ago. The book "Compromised" basically says the same thing you guys are saying, only that Terry Reed was an insider.
Jean Duffey: Yes, absolutely. I try not to report anything that I don't really know first hand. But reading his book certainly helped me to understand how the Mena operation was set up. And nothing in his book is inconsistent with what I know first-hand from what my task force developed.
Randall Terry: Tell us some of the things. You had several informants working for you. Tell us some of the things your informants uncovered.
Jean Duffey: They immediately linked drug traffic at the local level to local political people - local public officials. And because of that we routed-out information to a federal U.S. Assistant Attorney, who was a good guy.
Randall Terry: You say you found local political figures involved. And your informants were credible? They had concrete evidence?
Jean Duffey: Oh yeah. When one informant tells you something independently of one or two or three other informants, and they're all giving exactly the same information...
Randall Terry: Do they know that the other informants exist?
Jean Duffey: No.
Randall Terry: These are all separate?
Jean Duffey: They would be independent. It would be foolish to just listen to one informant and try to build a case based on what that one informant said. But the informants we used had been tested and proven. Also we had informants and witnesses who passed polygraph tests. So there are several different ways to determine the credibility of an informant or a witness and one is corroborating testimony.
Randall Terry: So you gave this testimony to federal law enforcement agents and thought that you were going to get justice at that point.And you were told by the federal prosecutor that they were going to indict some of these local political figures?
Jean Duffey: Oh, I was absolutely assured that there would be indictments and prosecutions of key public officials and in fact the same public officials who were conducting the media smear campaign against me at the time. This had been going on for several months, but the U.S. Attorney that was in charge of the federal grand jury investigation said "just hang on, because any day now..." I heard this week after week, and the weeks turned into months. Then he said I'm ready to have the grand jury indict and I'm ready to prosecute these same people, and as soon as that happens then everyone will understand the smear campaign and why they tried to discredit me professionally.
Randall Terry: We have about a minute left. You can say anything you want. This is Jean Duffey who headed up a drug task force. How many investigators did you have working for you?
Jean Duffey: I had seven undercover officers.
Randall Terry: And five of them resigned in protest over the way you were treated.
Jean Duffey: They did.
Randall Terry: That's unbelievable. You have the last minute to tell the listeners anything you want.
Jean Duffey: [Encourages listeners to order the video "Obstruction of Justice" which will be used to fund a civil action].
Randall Terry: I want to commend you again for putting your life on the line by stepping forward like this. Obviously some very powerful people have already murdered nearly a dozen people in connection with the drug smuggling there, starting with the two young boys. Certainly other law enforcement officials have been threatened. Were you threatened at all?
Jean Duffey: There was a $50,000 price on my head back in 1990, when I left the jurisdiction, and I was actually in hiding for nine months.
Randall Terry: They put a $50,000 hit fee on you?
Jean Duffey: That was the information my parents were given, and they were certainly very fearful. But once I left the jurisdiction and stopped doing the investigation they left me alone. They stopped the smear campaign. I didn't feel like anyone was looking for me. What they wanted me to do was just shut up and go away. When I did that they didn't have a problem. When I got involved again in 1994, at the request of the FBI, the FBI agent I was working with got the information that Harmon was looking to have my body laid out on the railroad track and run over. The agent was pretty fearful that that was a direct threat, but I was really not very intimidated by that.
Randall Terry: Ben Harmon, folks, is the fellow who eyewitnesses said was seen with the boys on the tracks the night they were murdered. And he is a prosecutor there.
Jean Duffey: He is the prosecuting attorney there and has been since 1991.
Randall Terry: If the allegations that our friend Jean Duffey has been telling us are true, then he is a monster. Jean, thank you very much for taking the time,and we applaud your courage...We hope that justice is done for these boys, and that all of the political power players who are involved in this coverup are exposed.
Jean Duffey: Thank you very much for your concern.